"Stans Hints and Tips"
If you have never flown a rubber-powered model before, a few hints:
1. Check before you leave your bench. NO WARPS, SURFACES TRUE. You always do this, don't you!
2. Balance the model where shown on plan. It will be further back than an R/C model, approximately 45 - 60 per cent.
3. Check the prop clutch works.
4. The field: - take some plasticine, remove prop, nose block and rubber motor. Rebalance model with plasticine in the nose. Now test glide the model. Nose dive, pack up the trailing edge of the tail plane 1/32 at a time. Stall: pack leading edge of tail plane, 1/32 at a time.
5. Having achieved a decent glide you know your airframe is OK.
6. Remove plasticine and refit rubber motor. Wind on about 50 turns and gently launch at a flat angle. Usual result, an immediate power stall. Down thrust is needed., pack top of nose block 1/16. In all probability it will not be enough (who said it would be easy!). At this point, it would be better to introduce some right thrust. Pack the top left hand corner of the nose block 1/16 - this will give some down and right thrust. Right thrust will help keep the 'nose down'. Too much right thrust will have the model ploughing the field with its nose. Gyroscopic precession is the reason for this.
All trims, packing, should be small steps - there is no trim button to save the day.
Best of luck to all diddy fliers. 'You will fly in interesting times'.
Stan
Some further tips from Roy, who has also been a keen enthusiast of rubber powered models which appears below - thanks Roy. :-
"when you have the rubber motor which should be longer than the fuz make it twice the length put on several turns until it can be halved and when returned to length of fuz it will stop the nose block falling ou as the motor runs out also the rubber should be lubricated with caster oil that's how we did it in the old days dont run the rubber dry it wont last".
Its great to see the interest and enthusiasm growing for this event, so if any of you have any issues with your builds and want solutions/support or a helping hand, let me know and I can circulate this amongst our experts who can give further guidance to us all! Also, if you have any photos of your builds, send me a photo and I will email them out to your colleagues.
"Stans Hints and Tips"
If you have never flown a rubber-powered model before, a few hints:
1. Check before you leave your bench. NO WARPS, SURFACES TRUE. You always do this, don't you!
2. Balance the model where shown on plan. It will be further back than an R/C model, approximately 45 - 60 per cent.
3. Check the prop clutch works.
4. The field: - take some plasticine, remove prop, nose block and rubber motor. Rebalance model with plasticine in the nose. Now test glide the model. Nose dive, pack up the trailing edge of the tail plane 1/32 at a time. Stall: pack leading edge of tail plane, 1/32 at a time.
5. Having achieved a decent glide you know your airframe is OK.
6. Remove plasticine and refit rubber motor. Wind on about 50 turns and gently launch at a flat angle. Usual result, an immediate power stall. Down thrust is needed., pack top of nose block 1/16. In all probability it will not be enough (who said it would be easy!). At this point, it would be better to introduce some right thrust. Pack the top left hand corner of the nose block 1/16 - this will give some down and right thrust. Right thrust will help keep the 'nose down'. Too much right thrust will have the model ploughing the field with its nose. Gyroscopic precession is the reason for this.
All trims, packing, should be small steps - there is no trim button to save the day.
Best of luck to all diddy fliers. 'You will fly in interesting times'.
Stan
Some further tips from Roy, who has also been a keen enthusiast of rubber powered models which appears below - thanks Roy. :-
"when you have the rubber motor which should be longer than the fuz make it twice the length put on several turns until it can be halved and when returned to length of fuz it will stop the nose block falling ou as the motor runs out also the rubber should be lubricated with caster oil that's how we did it in the old days dont run the rubber dry it wont last".
Its great to see the interest and enthusiasm growing for this event, so if any of you have any issues with your builds and want solutions/support or a helping hand, let me know and I can circulate this amongst our experts who can give further guidance to us all! Also, if you have any photos of your builds, send me a photo and I will email them out to your colleagues.
"Climb and Glide" competition held on Saturday 17th June 2017 :-
Results as follows;
1. Nick K 9 min 22 sec
2. Paul 6 min 23 sec
3. Colin W 6 min 07 sec
4. Gordon K 5 min 30 sec
Three rounds were flown in lovely warm weather with a slight north wind and lovely BLUE sky. There were 6 members present.
Results as follows;
1. Nick K 9 min 22 sec
2. Paul 6 min 23 sec
3. Colin W 6 min 07 sec
4. Gordon K 5 min 30 sec
Three rounds were flown in lovely warm weather with a slight north wind and lovely BLUE sky. There were 6 members present.
Gordon has given us the following dates for this year’s competitions reminding everyone that they are “FUN EVENTS” and that we could do with more entrants so, if you haven’t taken part previously, give it a go! Alternative dates are given in case of poor weather conditions.
2017 Competition Dates
(All competitions will start at 13.30 on the days stated)
April 22nd or 29th 1. Climb and Glide
2.Touch and Go (Number of Touch and Go’s in 3 minutes)
May 20th or 27th 1. Electric Glider
2. Scale
3. Limbo
June 17th or 24th 1. Bungee Glider
2. Fun Fly (30 second engine run and number of loops before
landing)
July 16th or 23rd 1. Climb and Glide
2. Scale
3. Touch and Go
August 19th or 26th 1. Bungee Glider
2. Limbo
September 23rd or 30th 1. Electric Glider
2. Fun Fly
2017 Competition Dates
(All competitions will start at 13.30 on the days stated)
April 22nd or 29th 1. Climb and Glide
2.Touch and Go (Number of Touch and Go’s in 3 minutes)
May 20th or 27th 1. Electric Glider
2. Scale
3. Limbo
June 17th or 24th 1. Bungee Glider
2. Fun Fly (30 second engine run and number of loops before
landing)
July 16th or 23rd 1. Climb and Glide
2. Scale
3. Touch and Go
August 19th or 26th 1. Bungee Glider
2. Limbo
September 23rd or 30th 1. Electric Glider
2. Fun Fly
2016 Results
Due to the lack of entries only the Climb and Glide was held on Saturday, 29 Oct. There was no wind so the Bungee Glider event was cancelled. There were 3 entries for the Climb and Glide, and the results :
1. Gordon 8m 49 secs
2. Nick 7m 50 secs
3. Paul 6m 55sec.
The overall results for 2016 are:
1. Nick 10 points
2. Gordon 4 “
3. Paul B 3 “
Stan 3 “
4. Andrew 2 “
Scot 2 “
Weather permitting, I hope to hold the first Competition next year, in the middle of May, and if we have booked Andrew Taylors field I will plan for those days as well.
Thanks for the support from the members that entered the Competitions, and hope we have more support from the members in 2017.
Regards,
Gordon.
1. Gordon 8m 49 secs
2. Nick 7m 50 secs
3. Paul 6m 55sec.
The overall results for 2016 are:
1. Nick 10 points
2. Gordon 4 “
3. Paul B 3 “
Stan 3 “
4. Andrew 2 “
Scot 2 “
Weather permitting, I hope to hold the first Competition next year, in the middle of May, and if we have booked Andrew Taylors field I will plan for those days as well.
Thanks for the support from the members that entered the Competitions, and hope we have more support from the members in 2017.
Regards,
Gordon.
The results of the Bungee glider Competition as follows:-
1 Stan 4m 11 sec
2 Nick 3m 58 sec
3 Gordon 2m 02 sec
4 Colin B And Colin W 30 sec
There were 5 entries.
Positions after 2 competitions
1 Nick 5 points
2 Stan 3 points
3 Andrew 2 points
4 Gordon 1 point
Paul B 1 point,
For a change the weather was fairly calm.
1 Stan 4m 11 sec
2 Nick 3m 58 sec
3 Gordon 2m 02 sec
4 Colin B And Colin W 30 sec
There were 5 entries.
Positions after 2 competitions
1 Nick 5 points
2 Stan 3 points
3 Andrew 2 points
4 Gordon 1 point
Paul B 1 point,
For a change the weather was fairly calm.
July 13th Climb + Glide
1. Nick K 12m 18 sec
2. Andrew J 9m 08 sec
3. Paul L 8m 33 sec
4. Colin B 7m 20 sec
5. Steven K 6m 44 sec
6. Colin W 3m 25 sec
It was a good turn out at Andrews field and flying was enjoyed by all,
whether competing or not. And the BBQ went down well.
The next Competition will be held at Muckleborough on 23 July, start
time at 2.00 pm. It will be Scale and Bungee Glider.
Thanks for your support .
Regards
Gordon
2015 results:
Electric Glider (7 entries)
1st Nick Kirk
2nd Steve Kessel
3rd Dave Blundell
Climb and Glide
1st Rob Griffiths
2nd Nick Kirk
3rd Andrew Jenkins
(6 entries)
Bungee Glider, John Heals Memorial Shield.
1st Nick Kirk
2nd Gordon Kilroy
3rd John Wells
(6 entries)
2015 overall results
1st Nick Kirk; 8 points
2nd Bob Grffiths; 3 points
3rd, joint, Steve Kessel, Dave Blundel,Gordon Kilroy; 2points
Of the 6 days of Competitions only 3 were flown due to weather conditions.
Electric Glider (7 entries)
1st Nick Kirk
2nd Steve Kessel
3rd Dave Blundell
Climb and Glide
1st Rob Griffiths
2nd Nick Kirk
3rd Andrew Jenkins
(6 entries)
Bungee Glider, John Heals Memorial Shield.
1st Nick Kirk
2nd Gordon Kilroy
3rd John Wells
(6 entries)
2015 overall results
1st Nick Kirk; 8 points
2nd Bob Grffiths; 3 points
3rd, joint, Steve Kessel, Dave Blundel,Gordon Kilroy; 2points
Of the 6 days of Competitions only 3 were flown due to weather conditions.
2015
Bungee Glider Competition 4th July
Results……………… 1. Nick 9m 20 sec
2. Steve K 4m 03 sec
3. Paul B 3m 44 sec
4. Andrew 3m 16 sec ( Only 1 Round flown)
5. Colin W 2m 54 sec
6. Colin 2m 14 sec.
Next Round 25 july Climb and Glide (Planes only) 30 sec engine run ic & Elec
Touch and Go Number of touches in 3 min.
Regards, Gordon.
Bungee Glider Competition 4th July
Results……………… 1. Nick 9m 20 sec
2. Steve K 4m 03 sec
3. Paul B 3m 44 sec
4. Andrew 3m 16 sec ( Only 1 Round flown)
5. Colin W 2m 54 sec
6. Colin 2m 14 sec.
Next Round 25 july Climb and Glide (Planes only) 30 sec engine run ic & Elec
Touch and Go Number of touches in 3 min.
Regards, Gordon.
Climb and Glide Results. 18 April 2015.
1. Bob Griffin 8min 04 sec
2. Andrew 7min 19 sec
3. Nick Kirk 6min 54 sec
4. Colin Bullock 4 min 32 sec
Limbo was not held as it was considered too windy for the tape strength. This part will be held on another Competition day when it’s not too windy.
1. Bob Griffin 8min 04 sec
2. Andrew 7min 19 sec
3. Nick Kirk 6min 54 sec
4. Colin Bullock 4 min 32 sec
Limbo was not held as it was considered too windy for the tape strength. This part will be held on another Competition day when it’s not too windy.
2014
2014 end of year summary.... Gordon reported that most of the Club Competitions had been flown with a few changes in dates due to weather conditions. The most entries attracted for any of the competitions was 6 which was for the 'Climb and Glide' comp. The second most popular event was the Bungee Glider Competition with 4 entries. Otherwise the number of entries was poor.
Competition results;
Climb and Glide( i/c) 1st Dave Blundell
2nd Nick Kirk
Climb and Glide (elect.) 1st Steve Kessel
2nd Paul Blake
3rd Nick Kirk
Touch and Go; 1st Nick Kirk
2nd Dave Blundell
Bungee Glider; 1st Nick Kirk
2nd Steve Kessel
Scale (based on flying only); 1st Dave Blundell
2nd Nick Kirk
The overall positions for the competitions flown in 2014 were;
1st Nick Kirk 11 Points
2nd Dave Blundell 8 Points
3rd Steve Kessel 5 Points
Gordon hoped for more entries in 2015 but thanked those Members who had taken part in 2014.
Competition results;
Climb and Glide( i/c) 1st Dave Blundell
2nd Nick Kirk
Climb and Glide (elect.) 1st Steve Kessel
2nd Paul Blake
3rd Nick Kirk
Touch and Go; 1st Nick Kirk
2nd Dave Blundell
Bungee Glider; 1st Nick Kirk
2nd Steve Kessel
Scale (based on flying only); 1st Dave Blundell
2nd Nick Kirk
The overall positions for the competitions flown in 2014 were;
1st Nick Kirk 11 Points
2nd Dave Blundell 8 Points
3rd Steve Kessel 5 Points
Gordon hoped for more entries in 2015 but thanked those Members who had taken part in 2014.
Hi Guys, Just to give you a heads up on the Scale Comp on 11 October, start time 1300 or 1.00 pm. As long as the model looks scalesh it’s the flying I will be checking which should be near to scale. It will consist of 6 manoeuvres — Take off, 4 nominations by you [loop, wing over. lazy, 8 low fly pass,touch and go.descending circle, wing over, land. you can pre note any manoeuvre you are happy to do . These are just examples. See you all there, weather permitting. Cheers, Gordon.
The results for Competitions held on 13 Sep are as follows:
John Heels Memorial Shield [ Bungee launched Gliders]
1st Nick Kirk 2nd Steven K 3rd Mike G 4th Dave B
Scale
1st Dave B 2nd Nick Kirk
There were 4 entries for the Glider Comp and 2 for the scale.The weather was excellent and it was disappointing not to have more support for the competitions.It’s only for fun and gives a boost to your flying in front of your friends.
A “Scale Competition” and Touch and go will be held on the 11th October. This may be the last for this year, so please support it.
John Heels Memorial Shield [ Bungee launched Gliders]
1st Nick Kirk 2nd Steven K 3rd Mike G 4th Dave B
Scale
1st Dave B 2nd Nick Kirk
There were 4 entries for the Glider Comp and 2 for the scale.The weather was excellent and it was disappointing not to have more support for the competitions.It’s only for fun and gives a boost to your flying in front of your friends.
A “Scale Competition” and Touch and go will be held on the 11th October. This may be the last for this year, so please support it.
Results of Climb and Glide 19 july 14 Round
Planes Dave B 9min 04 secs
Nick K 5min 25 secs
Gliders Paul B 5min 05 secs, Max 6 min [flight time8min50sec] 2min20sec………..Total !3min 25 sec
Nick K Max 6 min [flight time17min 26 sec] 2min43sec 3min40sec……….Total 12min23sec
Nicks flight of 17m0n26sec was on a 20sec motor run and well done to him
It has been suggested that we have a Bungee Launch Glider Comp on the 23 August along with the Scale and Spot Landing. I am happy to run the 3 comps on that day, so come on our members, How about a bit more support for the Competitions instead of the usual 6 that turn up. Fly even if you do not enter . At least we will have a few more on the day. Thanks to all in anticipation.
Planes Dave B 9min 04 secs
Nick K 5min 25 secs
Gliders Paul B 5min 05 secs, Max 6 min [flight time8min50sec] 2min20sec………..Total !3min 25 sec
Nick K Max 6 min [flight time17min 26 sec] 2min43sec 3min40sec……….Total 12min23sec
Nicks flight of 17m0n26sec was on a 20sec motor run and well done to him
It has been suggested that we have a Bungee Launch Glider Comp on the 23 August along with the Scale and Spot Landing. I am happy to run the 3 comps on that day, so come on our members, How about a bit more support for the Competitions instead of the usual 6 that turn up. Fly even if you do not enter . At least we will have a few more on the day. Thanks to all in anticipation.
